Is English officiating corrupt?

Try watching a game you have no interest in the result...say, Southampton V Ipswich...a game none of us would give a fig who wins or loses. Now give a tick for a correct call and a cross for an obviously bad call....Count them up at the end and the correct calls will be 80%. The lack of quality in refereeing is massively exagerated.

How did you arrive at 80%?

How did you arrive at 80%?

Easy just took 20% from 100%....No, seriously it's just a guess at an average....it'll be different in every game. I'd say 80% would be a minimum they get right, and most cases would be 90+%.
The point being Referees get far more right than wrong, which stands to reason as most decisions are clear and easy to call.

Easy just took 20% from 100%....No, seriously it's just a guess at an average....it'll be different in every game. I'd say 80% would be a minimum they get right, and most cases would be 90+%.
The point being Referees get far more right than wrong, which stands to reason as most decisions are clear and easy to call.

So let's just go with your number of 80%, I would say that if most decisions are clear and easy to call, then the ones that we really need the referees (or VAR) to be right on are those 20%. If these refs can't do better than getting 1 out of every 5 decisions wrong, then we need new referees.

https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/quick-stunning-foul-balance-update


Read it with blinders and dismiss it, or read it with an open mind and ask yourself how we've gotten to this.....but either way, please read it.

Stuart Attwell proved yet again what an atrocious referee he is tonight at Anfield.

Easy just took 20% from 100%....No, seriously it's just a guess at an average....it'll be different in every game. I'd say 80% would be a minimum they get right, and most cases would be 90+%.
The point being Referees get far more right than wrong, which stands to reason as most decisions are clear and easy to call.

80% is 1 in every 5 decisions wrong. 82% is the latest figure in leagues without VAR. Not good enough.

With VAR, at least 96% of decisions are correct in the EPL, so those are the games I would rather watch.

It's the remaining 4% that attract the headlines.

When it comes to the manchester gang, they see what they want to see and give what they want to give. Theyve won titles for cheaty with scandalous decisions either going for them/against us or against us/that in turn means for them.

People can go on about 50/50s some you get some you dont all day. But the really bad ones, title defining ones,  the ones that matter, the big moments, that 100% should have gone against them, still went for them.

Corrupt.

You told us in the VAR thread, that you enjoyed the mancs scoring that decisive ghost goal in the FA Cup game, because VAR was not available to see justice done. Justice may have been denied, but at least you enjoyed it.

Now that VAR has returned, the mancs can't win games with offside goals anymore, so they're out of the competition.

Stuart Attwell proved yet again what an atrocious referee he is tonight at Anfield.

I think that was a foregone !

https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/quick-stunning-foul-balance-update


Read it with blinders and dismiss it, or read it with an open mind and ask yourself how we've gotten to this.....but either way, please read it.

Great read, backs up what we have all been thinking for a long, long time!

https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/quick-stunning-foul-balance-update


Read it with blinders and dismiss it, or read it with an open mind and ask yourself how we've gotten to this.....but either way, please read it.

Most of us knew,  Tomkins has put the statistic to clear everything up.  The ref's are on a mission to disrupt our games and give us very little outside stonewall! 

Most of us knew,  Tomkins has put the statistic to clear everything up.  The ref's are on a mission to disrupt our games and give us very little outside stonewall! 

I mean, stonewall pen on salah early in the newcastle game, atwell didnt want to know and var once again was MIA ... down the other end theyd have been all over it.

https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/unpacking-why-liverpool-are-treated

Another great article clearly showing the corruption against us ... the horrific decisions against us that should have gone for us, blatant pens ignored, blatant reds ignored. No big decisions in our favor, the timing of these horrific decisions against us, the vars ignoring it, Atwell kavanagh tierney coote brooks etc ... the usual suspects surprise surprise. Atwell at it again against newcastle.

Anyone with half a brain can clearly see these corrupt fcukers are out to have us off and give us nothing, this just goes into even more damning detail so even the deluded can get it.

And to add insult, 2 of these corrupt fcukers, have the carabao cup final, john brooks and atwell is on var and he has fcuked us over many times on var. See tomkins piece.

https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/unpacking-why-liverpool-are-treated

Another great article clearly showing the corruption against us ... the horrific decisions against us that should have gone for us, blatant pens ignored, blatant reds ignored. No big decisions in our favor, the timing of these horrific decisions against us, the vars ignoring it, Atwell kavanagh tierney coote brooks etc ... the usual suspects surprise surprise. Atwell at it again against newcastle.

Anyone with half a brain can clearly see these corrupt fcukers are out to have us off and give us nothing, this just goes into even more damning detail so even the deluded can get it.

What about the ones that have gone in our favour

I mean, stonewall pen on salah early in the newcastle game, atwell didnt want to know and var once again was MIA ... down the other end theyd have been all over it.

It shows from the stats clearly that they are one big clan and look after each other. Especially after the 2 incidents.   They were on a mission to screw us.

John Brooks is the ref for the Cup final.

Attwell on VAR

Why’s this thread so quiet this morning?  I thought all you lads that are convinced there’s corruption in the game would have being saying the ref got paid for not sending Konate off?

Why’s this thread so quiet this morning?  I thought all you lads that are convinced there’s corruption in the game would have being saying the ref got paid for not sending Konate off?

Refs judge challenges like that as shoulder to shoulder. Konate was just stronger, that's why no foul was given. And Barcola didn't have control of the ball, so it wasn't a clear goal scoring op. Hope that clears it up for you.

Refs judge challenges like that as shoulder to shoulder. Konate was just stronger, that's why no foul was given. And Barcola didn't have control of the ball, so it wasn't a clear goal scoring op. Hope that clears it up for you.

Not sure you’d be saying that if the rolls were reversed Harris. 😂 This thread would be in meltdown 

Not sure you’d be saying that if the rolls were reversed Harris. 😂 This thread would be in meltdown 

Well I am one who is fantastically fair minded. I should win some kind a award really. So when I say I would've complained the other way I am obviously being very very truthful. It was a fair match and they were just unlucky.

And I very rarely call out Refs...well Twisted Oliver is in a class of his own FFS.

Standard of officials abroad is fair, a good standard and doesnt leave you feeling cheated. Much like var in europe. Unlike the bent corrupt lot we have to deal with week in week out in the prem

Well I am one who is fantastically fair minded. I should win some kind a award really. So when I say I would've complained the other way I am obviously being very very truthful. It was a fair match and they were just unlucky.

And I very rarely call out Refs...well Twisted Oliver is in a class of his own FFS.

  Was a great match Harris, not often we see you lot getting battered this season. 😂  As champions elect (( PL 🤢)) that’s what champions do, where’s that 🤮 bucket 😂

Standard of officials abroad is fair, a good standard and doesnt leave you feeling cheated. Much like var in europe. Unlike the bent corrupt lot we have to deal with week in week out in the prem

Not that good when you consider it was a straight read Don.

Why’s this thread so quiet this morning?  I thought all you lads that are convinced there’s corruption in the game would have being saying the ref got paid for not sending Konate off?

It’s quiet mate cos this match wasn’t reffed by a extremely dodgy PGMOL official, a extremely dodgy PGMOL official who may or may not have a slight agenda against LFC and who may or may not have a notion of revenge for their compadre David Cootes who was most definitely extremely dodgy,
 had this particular match been officiated by a PGMOL official, I have no doubt whatsoever that a penalty would have been awarded,
I hope that this explanation explains why in your most humblest opinion it is very quiet in here today ?? 😜🖕🖕🏾🖕🖕🏾🖕🖕🏾


YNWA

We will be without Slot again v Soton.

Terrible injustice. I've reviewed the 'Oliver red card' incident with my normal neutral and fair minded observations.

Our fantastic manager Mr. Slot, a man of impeccable honour and integrity. True sportsman, true gentleman approached the surly looking unfriendly straight faced 'ref', one Michael Oliver to offer his a sporting handshake.

Then out of the blue and for some obscure reason, the sour face Ref snatched a sharp edged Red Card and thrust...yes Thrust it into the face of Mr. Slot. Very nearly making contact. In normal circumstances it could be construed as 'trespass to the person'..indeed..Mr.Slot narrowly escaped a scratch on his boat.

A terrible ordeal for the mild mannered Mr. Slot...I tell you it's an upside down world we live in.