Alisson Becker Player Thread (GK)

Most of us were surprised to see him back so quickly. The club and he played with fire and got burnt, simple as that.

The manager and coaching staff made a judgement based on the player in training

There was no playing with fire etc

The manager knew that he had a hamstring injury going to Milan. He told us that after the game, but he still put him out there to risk it further, with 2 fully fit keepers available instead. On what planet does that decision make any sense? I would be disappointed if our PL2 Manager would do it, let alone the first team head coach. I've no doubt it was the same process for the Wolves game. If he trained a couple of times, he must be fine. Well the truth is, no he wasn't, just a week later and he's down again.

While the rest of the squad spent weeks trying to get to know the manager and his tactics running around training cones out in America in 100°c heat, his pre season consisted of one friendly and that was considered adequate preparation to start another long hard slog of a season, at 32 years of age. I'm no sports scientist, but considering he's already had 3 hamstring injuries recently, I would think very carefully before sending him out there if I don't absolutely have to do it.

As for his "clear No. 1" status, I said during last year's run in, changing a No. 1 can be done in an instant, but changing the also ran status in a title race can't. 

The manager knew that he had a hamstring injury going to Milan. He told us that after the game, but he still put him out there to risk it further, with 2 fully fit keepers available instead. On what planet does that decision make any sense? I would be disappointed if our PL2 Manager would do it, let alone the first team head coach. I've no doubt it was the same process for the Wolves game. If he trained a couple of times, he must be fine. Well the truth is, no he wasn't, just a week later and he's down again.

While the rest of the squad spent weeks trying to get to know the manager and his tactics running around training cones out in America in 100°c heat, his pre season consisted of one friendly and that was considered adequate preparation to start another long hard slog of a season, at 32 years of age. I'm no sports scientist, but considering he's already had 3 hamstring injuries recently, I would think very carefully before sending him out there if I don't absolutely have to do it.

As for his "clear No. 1" status, I said during last year's run in, changing a No. 1 can be done in an instant, but changing the also ran status in a title race can't.

He is the clear number 1 and will be the clear number 1 until he leaves

He is the best GK in football

The manager knew that he had a hamstring injury going to Milan. He told us that after the game, but he still put him out there to risk it further, with 2 fully fit keepers available instead. On what planet does that decision make any sense? I would be disappointed if our PL2 Manager would do it, let alone the first team head coach. I've no doubt it was the same process for the Wolves game. If he trained a couple of times, he must be fine. Well the truth is, no he wasn't, just a week later and he's down again.

While the rest of the squad spent weeks trying to get to know the manager and his tactics running around training cones out in America in 100°c heat, his pre season consisted of one friendly and that was considered adequate preparation to start another long hard slog of a season, at 32 years of age. I'm no sports scientist, but considering he's already had 3 hamstring injuries recently, I would think very carefully before sending him out there if I don't absolutely have to do it.

As for his "clear No. 1" status, I said during last year's run in, changing a No. 1 can be done in an instant, but changing the also ran status in a title race can't.

The manager, like any manager works on the advice given by the head physio and club medical staff, only a numbnut would find a way to blame the manager. Arne is there everyday on the training pitch, you're not. He gets the judgement call based on their sharpness and shape in these sessions, you don't.

Ali's been here 6 years and never taken a back seat so the whole "#1 can change at any instant" clearly doesn't apply to him now does it?

In any case, you get to see your #1 player get a run of games....so what's the fuss about?

Reported to be out till mid November...

As I said within the match thread minutes after he did it

Reported to be out till mid November...

As expected. 6-8 weeks probably. Hardly rocket science. I was hoping it might not have been as bad as thought and settle down over the next couple of weeks. Going to miss some huge games. Kels wont let us down. Lets still be top when Ali returns.

The manager knew that he had a hamstring injury going to Milan. He told us that after the game, but he still put him out there to risk it further, with 2 fully fit keepers available instead. On what planet does that decision make any sense? I would be disappointed if our PL2 Manager would do it, let alone the first team head coach. I've no doubt it was the same process for the Wolves game. If he trained a couple of times, he must be fine. Well the truth is, no he wasn't, just a week later and he's down again.

While the rest of the squad spent weeks trying to get to know the manager and his tactics running around training cones out in America in 100°c heat, his pre season consisted of one friendly and that was considered adequate preparation to start another long hard slog of a season, at 32 years of age. I'm no sports scientist, but considering he's already had 3 hamstring injuries recently, I would think very carefully before sending him out there if I don't absolutely have to do it.

As for his "clear No. 1" status, I said during last year's run in, changing a No. 1 can be done in an instant, but changing the also ran status in a title race can't. 

Didn't Alisson play in the Copa in the summer? So got the same time off as the rest of the South American lads!!

You love spouting uneducated crap!!

To be fair it isn't a great look to see a player rushed back and then blow up again.

While we have Kevin in as back up we should be okay to give Alli all the time he needs.

We should consider giving him all the group stage CL games to take the load off as well.

 

As expected. 6-8 weeks probably. Hardly rocket science. I was hoping it might not have been as bad as thought and settle down over the next couple of weeks. Going to miss some huge games. Kels wont let us down. Lets still be top when Ali returns.

What's not rocket science ?

What's not rocket science ?

Biology....

To be fair it isn't a great look to see a player rushed back and then blow up again.

While we have Kevin in as back up we should be okay to give Alli all the time he needs.

We should consider giving him all the group stage CL games to take the load off as well.

Manager's decision on advice from the sports science crew.

Won't be the first time that happens to a player.

At least he won't be out for the full season, but turn up for ten mins in a game like Thiago did last year!!

What's not rocket science ?

Everything that isn't rocket science....literally

The manager, like any manager works on the advice given by the head physio and club medical staff. Arne is there everyday on the training pitch, you're not. He gets the judgement call based on their sharpness and shape in these sessions, you don't.

Ali's been here 6 years and never taken a back seat so the whole "#1 can change at any instant" clearly doesn't apply to him now does it?

What's more important, how long he's been here, or whether he's match fit or not? Not much point in him being clear No. 1, if/when he's not fit.

The manager knew about his injury before going to Milan and he still put him out there, so yes you can blame the manager for that. A dreadful mistake compounded by bringing him back before he was ready. I don't think he took any advice on his fitness before Wolves. Or if he did, the advice he got must have amounted to something not much more along the lines of "he's on the training pitch now, play him".

But Alisson wasn't fit. We know that now.

Didn't Alisson play in the Copa in the summer? So got the same time off as the rest of the South American lads!!

Yeah, none of them have already had 2 injury absences this season. He has, and it's only October.

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Manager's decision on advice from the sports science crew.

Won't be the first time that happens to a player.

At least he won't be out for the full season, but turn up for ten mins in a game like Thiago did last year!!

He’s a keeper and he misses at least 10-15 games a season.

F***ing joke and no wonder Arne wants a new keeper.

He’s a keeper and he misses at least 10-15 games a season.

F***ing joke and no wonder Arne wants a new keeper.

That's turning up in two years time and will probably take another year adapting to the league.

Yeah can't F***ing wait lad!!

That's turning up in two years time and will probably take another year adapting to the league.

Yeah can't F***ing wait lad!!

Adapting to the league? He's a keeper no need to get familiar to the pace plus he played the Euros, not an inexperienced keeper.

Losing Ali, Trent, Mo and Virg in 1 summer will be too much for me. That'll only leave Robbo as the sole survivor of the PL/CL winning side.

Not sure my heart can take it 

Losing Ali, Trent, Mo and Virg in 1 summer will be too much for me. That'll only leave Robbo as the sole survivor of the PL/CL winning side.

Not sure my heart can take it 

Hopefully it won’t be like when Hodgson took over which saw our top talent leave the club to be replaced by mediocre players..

Hopefully it won’t be like when Hodgson took over which saw our top talent leave the club to be replaced by mediocre players..

All eyes will be on FSG this summer to see how far they're willing to go to back Arne and his squad, shaping up to be the biggest summer under their tenure.

I remain hopeful, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

All eyes will be on FSG this summer to see how far they're willing to go to back Arne and his squad, shaping up to be the biggest summer under their tenure.

I remain hopeful, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Hopefully agent Lallana in Pyjamas might have some updates… he’s pretty close to JWH… 😉

Hopefully agent Lallana in Pyjamas might have some updates… he’s pretty close to JWH… 😉

Yes very close to his……..arsehole